tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post2689427909261902996..comments2023-09-25T03:57:22.736-06:00Comments on The Decorum Forum: What should I ask Ms Prang?Bob Newlandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05388226473052858297noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-27167079289272287512010-10-06T22:57:46.156-06:002010-10-06T22:57:46.156-06:00Bill,
Great suggestions.Bill,<br /><br />Great suggestions.DDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-87456338231461396632010-10-06T22:56:28.929-06:002010-10-06T22:56:28.929-06:00Bob,
You could ask her to list the side effects ...Bob,<br /><br /><br />You could ask her to list the side effects of the alternative medications that she distributes, but then you probably wouldn't get a chance to talk.<br /><br />I'm not sure I can come up with anything better than some of the suggestions here and what you can come up with yourself.<br /><br />I will echo repete's suggestion to not go after her personally. I'll also suggest not going after pharmacies, "Big Pharma" and business in general. I don't think that will play over well with the crowd that you'll be addressing. They'll close up and feel defensive if you do that.<br /><br />I certainly wouldn't bother to ask her about Mexico & Canada.<br /><br /><br />There's likely to be a few people that you can actually sway on the subject. Best of luck.<br /><br /><br /><br />"buderd"DDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-68260150143222076462010-10-06T22:39:20.970-06:002010-10-06T22:39:20.970-06:00First Jo isn't a dummy. I think she will try t...First Jo isn't a dummy. I think she will try to bring up recreational cannabis use either in her opening remark or in a question form. Don’t let that happen it would just drag you down a slippery slope. But you have done this many times just like repete has said so that shouldn’t be a problem. After all medical marijuana and recreational use are two different things and IM13 is only about medical marijuana. <br /><br />If it were me I would open with my two minutes on the United States history of medical pot and how it became illegal and why. And the fact that doctors had to be forced to stop prescribing marijuana because of false informationand it sure wasnt because they wanted to. <br /><br />Its interesting that all they could find was Jo. My fist question to her would be how much income she would lose if medical marijuana were to become legal in the treatment of Alzheimer's disease<br />* Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis<br />* Chronic Pain <br />* Diabetes mellitus<br />* Dystonia <br />* Fibromyalgia <br />* Gastrointestinal disorders<br />* Gliomas <br />* Hepatitis C <br />* Human Immunodeficiency Virus <br />* Hypertension <br />* Incontinence <br />* Methicillin-resistant Staphyloccus aureus (MRSA)<br />* Multiple sclerosis<br />* Osteoporosis <br />* Pruritus <br />* Rheumatoid arthritis<br />* Sleep apnea <br />* Tourette's syndrome And if that had any impact on her reasoning to speak against it. <br />The research for all of these things can be easily found on the net. <br /><br />Second question would be what percentage of the drugs that she fills have overdose as a side effect. <br /><br />Third question would be would it be possible for a prescribed drug to be less effective then one that is natural. Or vise versa?<br /><br />Fourth would be what studies other then those funded by the government does she have to back up her assumptions? <br /><br />And five. Do any of the prescriptions she fills not have any side effects?Bill Dithmernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-47682135362474382682010-10-06T22:38:17.905-06:002010-10-06T22:38:17.905-06:00Bill,
I would certainly think that the Governor c...Bill,<br /><br />I would certainly think that the Governor could do that through clemency.<br /><br />Judges can't, because the person was guilty of committing a crime at the time that they performed the act. If I'm caught going 50 in a 45 today and they change the speed limit to 55 tomorrow, I'm still guilty of breaking the law that was in place on the day I was caught. It would be similar concept as me going getting pulled of with a .000001 BAC today and the DUI law changing tomorrow to zero tolerance. They couldn't come get me on Monday and arrest me because I wasn't breaking the law at the time I was pulled over.<br /><br />While I am not positive, I don't believe that there is any mechanism that the legislature could use to remedy it either. One possibility would be to pass legislation stating that felons convicted of such and such crime could not be discriminated against for anything (or whatever the legalese would be for that). I honestly don't know that this would be a viable option, though.<br /><br />So, I believe the only real hope would be the Governor granting clemency.DDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-63410353025034331662010-10-06T21:57:42.843-06:002010-10-06T21:57:42.843-06:00Have you seen this patent for cannabnoids as antio...Have you seen this patent for cannabnoids as antioxidents and neuroprotectants http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507.html<br />IF the US government even holds a patent proclaiming the benefits of cannabanoids as neuroprotectors and antioxidants does she think its fair to withhold this potentially life saving medicine that has a track record of safe use dating back thousands of years from patience while modern medicine figures out how to extract and package these canabanoids in a manner that is profitable?Andrehttp://andreager.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-74799881081132930922010-10-06T21:09:05.526-06:002010-10-06T21:09:05.526-06:00Really the debate on this issue comes down to one ...Really the debate on this issue comes down to one thing: the method of delivery. No one in their right mind will dispute that marijuana indeed has therapeutic value. Even the federal government admits as much when describing Marinol.Nealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-67217624777497187012010-10-06T16:44:49.158-06:002010-10-06T16:44:49.158-06:00Ask her why she believes smoke inhalation is a ter...Ask her why she believes smoke inhalation is a terrible way to adminster drugs, given that second-hand cigarrette smoke causes so much damage to those around it.Thad Wassonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633228072878507747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-48013518275504105092010-10-06T16:37:08.729-06:002010-10-06T16:37:08.729-06:00Good question... I suppose some kind of legal pr...Good question... I suppose some kind of legal presidence was set when booze was relegalized. <br />Anybody know? Does Bob get to be a real citizen again when its proven the earth isn't flat?repetenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-16733799710744975612010-10-06T14:12:19.466-06:002010-10-06T14:12:19.466-06:00repete, interesting question though. If this measu...repete, interesting question though. If this measure passes, will it be possible to have certain "felons" records expunged? Seems like maybe a good judge or Governor or whatever could so order it. I wonder if the State or Fed would contest it.<br /><br />Am I just dreaming over here?<br /><br />*replect*Bill Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319507693205848772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-53879778520169747732010-10-06T13:47:45.188-06:002010-10-06T13:47:45.188-06:00Lots of good comments & suggestions, just don&...Lots of good comments & suggestions, just don't go after her personally. Go after the pharmacies in general.<br /><br />She would probably love to turn this into a personal attack because Bob is a convicted felon... so no matter how right you are, you'd probably lose that part of the argument in the general public mindset. <br /><br />I probably don't need to post this, I've seen you argue on logic in the past.repetenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-74285519853721825382010-10-06T12:39:26.191-06:002010-10-06T12:39:26.191-06:00Ask her how many of the pharmaceuticals she sells ...Ask her how many of the pharmaceuticals she sells have a natural, organic anlog. (i.e. how many of her remedies are just actually substances that have been discovered in nature, tweaked a little chemically so they can be patented, packaged and marketed at a profit.)<br /><br />Also, how much does her business charge for drugs compared to the same drugs sold in Canada and/or Mexico?Bill Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319507693205848772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-69290439462428561642010-10-06T10:53:07.400-06:002010-10-06T10:53:07.400-06:00Ask her if she has a personal financial interest i...Ask her if she has a personal financial interest in preventing medical marijuana's legalization.<br /><br />Ask her if her pharmacy sells opiates and other controlled substances. Ask her if she's ever been aware of anyone abusing morphine, demerol, valium, or any of the other heavy duty pain killer she peddles.<br /><br />How much would she stand to lose if 10 percent of her pain killer and nausea remedy customers started growing their own?<br /><br />Ask her if she's ever heard of a case where a legitimate customer's children have pilfered their stash of opiates.Michael Sanbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06523147171085428754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-78470670756327038812010-10-06T10:42:27.152-06:002010-10-06T10:42:27.152-06:00Agree with her when she cites Marinol as a legitim...Agree with her when she cites Marinol as a legitimate therapy. Remind the audience that it is not tolerated by some patients.larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-78560301943773198372010-10-06T10:39:44.134-06:002010-10-06T10:39:44.134-06:00"Rebut." Get it?"Rebut." Get it?larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-11235165708167325142010-10-06T10:38:44.330-06:002010-10-06T10:38:44.330-06:00There was an RN at SDWC advocating for Marinol sup...There was an RN at SDWC advocating for Marinol suppositories. May be a good idea to be ready to rebut with contraindications.larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-83923367771270559682010-10-06T10:32:52.253-06:002010-10-06T10:32:52.253-06:00She will have some pharmocological data to support...She will have some pharmocological data to support the use of Marinol. <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/medical/marinol1.htm" rel="nofollow">Here is a rebuttal</a>.larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2123919364122433432.post-88001619310253638352010-10-06T10:23:58.759-06:002010-10-06T10:23:58.759-06:00There are so many good articles, it's tough to...There are so many <a href="http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2010/08/30/medical-marijuana-used-to-fight-cancer/" rel="nofollow">good articles</a>, it's tough to choose. <br /><br />My cousin smoked his 80 year-old mother through a potato when her chemo killed her appetite.larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.com